No Password Required: Former Lead Attorney at U.S. Cyber Command, Cyber Law Strategist, and Appreciator of ‘Mad Men’ Hats

On this episode, hosts Jack Clabby of Carlton Fields and Kayley Melton, executive director of operations at the Cognitive Security Institute, sit down with Kurt Sanger — a seasoned cyber law leader and former deputy general counsel at U.S. Cyber Command.
 
Kurt, a cybersecurity and data privacy attorney, reflects on his 23+ years in the U.S. Marine Corps and how the adrenaline of cyber operations and policy has translated into the private sector, where he now helps clients navigate legal risk in an increasingly tech-driven world. He opens up about the difference between the proactive pace of military cyber law and the more reactive nature of corporate advisory work — and why that shift surprised him.
 
He also shares how moving to the Tampa Bay area shattered his assumptions about where cyber talent lives, explaining why it’s one of the most vibrant and underrated cybersecurity communities in the country. From quoting “The Godfather” on nation-state threats to challenging the 10,000-hour mastery rule, Kurt gives us an honest look at the evolving cyber legal landscape — and what it means for newcomers entering the field.
 
In the lifestyle polygraph segment, Kurt settles the ultimate Chicago food debate and declares a clear winner among the Windy City’s top three treats (will he choose the casserole masquerading as pizza?). He also explains his appreciation for the stylish hats of “Mad Men” that he believes should make a comeback and turns the tables with a Tampa-themed question for Jack.

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